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Is the Rogue perfect? POF Revolution DI Review - Guns and Ammo I absolutely love a short-stroke AR. I have a couple of POF's, including the Revolution carbine, and they've been excellent. Its very cool. ["filter"]=> string(0) "" . string(0) "" It's heavy, but an accurate shooter. ["post_type"]=> I have a mix of large frame lowers that I could conceivably mate to various uppers, but I don't expect to find loose large frame uppers in the wild going forward. ["post_status"]=> As to be expected the Winchester load provided the highest velocity with an impressive 2,911 fps. string(9) "Rogue SBR" string(52) "https://pof-usa.com/?post_type=firearm&p=129368" *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. string(1) "0" string(7) "publish" ["ID"]=> It's also a 16" rifle-length gas system. ["post_parent"]=> JavaScript is disabled. ["post_status"]=> The barrel is a very light profile so the balance isn't the best but it's very easy to carry around. Here it is below my 16" 6.5 Grendel for scale, plenty of neg reviews on the rogue so buyer beware. You must log in or register to reply here. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Rifling is a very fast 1:8 twist, which is optimized for heavier/longer hunting and match loads. The old large frames feel like a brick in comparison. int(0) Just saw this. The firing pin is Mil-Spec other than its increased length. ["post_password"]=> "OD green has been a long-requested . POF always understates the actual weight. Online shopping from a great selection of discounted 308 Semi-Auto Rifles by POF at Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore. ["filter"]=> Semi should be even less. Most of the shots are rapid fire and immediate mag changes. One new winner* is announced every week! While every effort is made to include accurate and correct images, descriptions and pricing for all . string(0) "" While our test sample did turn out to weigh a bit more than the sub-6-lb. The result is a sub 6 pound .308 rifle packed with proprietary and patented innovations. ["pinged"]=> ["post_status"]=> } Specs (16-inch variant, via Ruger) Barrel Length: 16.1 inches Overall Length: 34-to-37.25 inches depending on stock position Length of pull: 11-to-14.25 inches Height: 7.2 inches from grip bottom. string(17) "renegade-plus-sbr" POF-USA's proprietary muzzle brake offers recoil mitigation and a bezeled crown. ["post_author"]=> Add another 8oz to whatever they publish. POF touts its Modular Railed Receiver (M.R.R) as crucial for accuracy. . I've run around 500 rds. string(3) "raw" renegade-plus-sbrobject(WP_Post)#7947 (24) { int(130663) ["to_ping"]=> <p>The Rogue features POF's E2 dual-extraction technology consists of four small channels cut into the walls of the chamber allowing a small amount of gas pressure to push against the neck of the spent case. (collapsed), 38 in. It would make a good companion on a hike or while backpacking. While these intermediate cartridges are good, they are simply out-muscled by full-power rifle cartridges like the .308 Win, 6.5mm Creedmoor and 6mm Creedmoor. Carved from American A2 steel, the Trigger, Disconnect, and Hammer are all Nitride Heat-Treated to 70 Rockwell case hardness for ultimate strength and corrosion resistance. It was really accurate to begin with, but with the large GB hitting the inside of the rail it was getting some off the reservation fliers. Although several of our evaluators were initially concerned that POFs weight-reduction efforts might have pushed the carbine into too much of a good thing territory given its authoritative chambering, all the shooters had changed their minds by the end of the session. It's better now. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. The buffer detent now doubles as a lock that inhibits the buffer tube from rotating and becoming loose under adverse conditions. Shopping Cart Toggle navigation. A quick clean and I was back up and running. ["ping_status"]=> ["comment_count"]=> ["post_password"]=> A 5.9-pound AR-15 rifle chambered in .308 Winchester? This rifle offers a ton of bang for the buck, and while its price is still no chump change, the Rogue does not compare unfavorably to other .308 Win.-chambered battle rifles on the market todayfew of which are anywhere near as easy to tote in the field. Just extremely skeptical on not a bad weight - Mine with Sig Tango 6 3-18 comes in at 14lb 2 oz before hanging another 2lbs of SRT Shadow XL on the end.. for comparison, my lightweight 308, POF revolution with the same optic, knocks almost 3lbs off Very nice. Got rid of the 12.7 cause I really didn't like the blast. ["post_password"]=> and such a rifle would have to weigh much more than 5.9 pounds, right? Attached to the rifle via a mil-spec, carbine-style receiver extension is Mission First Tacticals Battlelink Minimalist Stock, which also contributes to the guns sylphlike weight. POF ROGUE RFLE DI 16 11M RAIL 308 PBRN $ Remove from Compare Add to Compare. Built on a billet aluminum, fully ambidextrous upper and lower receiver set, the UIC-10A is the Compact Semi-Automatic Sniper System of the UIC line. Im giving the Rogue a spin for the field gun slot. Should be able to try it this week. The Revolution intrigued me as it is an AR-15-size platform, but chambered in .308 Win. POF REVOLUTION DI SPECIFICATIONS Type: Direct impingement, semiautomatic Caliber: 7.62 NATO Capacity: 10, 20 rds. Upgraded features that POF incorporates into this part include a roller cam pin instead of the more traditional rectangular cam pin, reducing friction and stress on the part, and a stainless-steel gas key dovetailed into the carrier to provide added rigidity and to minimize carrier tilt. The most common complaints I hear voiced against AR-10-type rifles is, they are too big and too heavy. The receiver sets are large, the bolt carrier is huge and heavy and once you add a sling, loaded magazine and an optical sight the end result is a rifle physically larger and heavier than most desire for carrying in the field, especially while hunting. Not gonna knock how beautiful your rifle looks, because it looks flawless. string(8) "Prescott" Aero Precision M5E1 AR-10 Complete Rifle. I'm not sure if they sell it individually. Got a 16" Revolution this Feb, and it has been reliable out of the box. I just got a 16.5" Rogue and here's how it's set up now: Scepticism is an exercise, not a life; it is a discipline fit to purify the mind of prejudice and render it all the more apt, when the time comes, to believe and to act wisely. . The E feature is designed to aid extraction and improve reliability. This prevents carrier tilt and premature wear of the buffer tube. In addition Blacks Hills Ammunition also launched a 6mm ARC round and a 6.5 PRC. Patriot Ordinance Factory | Better Business Bureau Profile string(17) "Revolution PD SBR" Cartridges like the .224 Valkyrie, 6mm ARC, 6.5mm Grendel, 6.8x43mm Rem SPC, 300 AAC Blackout and 350 Legend add more punch to the AR-15. ["post_password"]=> The 1/8 twist rate is not a typo. The rifle has an overall length of just 33.2 inches with the stock collapsed. The extractor and firing pin are both chrome plated. ["post_modified"]=> Most hunters and many shooters want a smaller and lighter option. phoenix-9mmobject(WP_Post)#11362 (24) { string(0) "" ["post_date_gmt"]=> However, POF in classes seem to be the first high end AR to choke. In the past 6 months the only thing this guy does on here is dog a specific manufacture. ["post_author"]=> 7.62x51mm nato semi auto 20 rounds 16.5 barrel. ["post_modified"]=> Patriot Ordnance Factory 01662 Rogue Direct Impingement 308 Win,7.62x51mm NATO 16.50' 20+1 Black Anodized 6 Position MFT Stock. This thread turned up when I was searching for the factory gas block profile specs. During the years since its release, the company has continued to refine the platform, first by adapting the piston-driven Revolution into the direct-impingement Revolution DI, and now by offering the Rogue, a rifle that POF views as a dedicated hunting variant of the concept. Can the SCAR guys come find a way to take a giant crap in this thread like they do in ours?? Keep in mind you may need to shoot lighter Ammo in the shorter barrel for maximum terminal performance. The POF Rogue has been around a bit now, but you almost never hear about it vs. a traditional AR-10 build. This features two small parts on top and five strike prongs. ["comment_status"]=> There are multiple sling mounting points, including a QD mount at the rear of the receiver. This lightweight hunting rifle can go with you without needless "lightening" cuts, all while delivering a rifle at a price point affordable to serious shooters. According to POF, the Rogue twist rate is designed for higher weight bullets so that may be a consideration for you. Here is a rifle you could use for hunting, personal protection and recreational shooting. The rifles 416R stainless-steel barrel is threaded 5/8x24 TPI and capped with POFs five-prong Micro B muzzle brake. This is NOT an AR-10. string(19) "2022-05-09 09:01:02" This is important as heat is the enemy of auto-loading firearms. Each iteration of POFs Revolution has thoroughly impressed us, and despite some of the lines bells and whistles having been removed from the Rogue, the most important ones are still present. ["comment_count"]=> I plan to put a DA FH on it so I can mount a Sandman-K for times we need cans to shoot. Not sure how it will feel to shoot at less than 6 lbs. This features good-looking relief cuts and deletes the forward assist to reduce weight. string(52) "https://pof-usa.com/?post_type=firearm&p=129246" string(0) "" ["post_password"]=> AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Has anyone got experiences or advice, +/- they'd share? I had to send it back to POF for a new barrel because the accuracy was horrible. The match-grade barrel assembly is fitted to a distinctive-looking flattop upper receiver. I only know one person with a POF 308 and they had a lot of issues with it. string(6) "closed" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/26706/rogue-2379521.jpg, https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/133585/20220525_1446378_jpg-2398131.JPG, https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/133585/20220525_152209_jpg-2398133.JPG. string(0) "" string(19) "2022-12-28 22:24:32" } So if there's no Dictator gas block, what I imagine happened was: POF's gen 4 ambi bolt release and bolt hold open are what made me want a revolution. I'm 56 and I've owned 100s of guns through my life, however I've never owned an AR. Find out more about your firearm. If you have any thoughts or comments on this article, wed love to hear them. It certainly held its own if compared to your average FAL, G3, CETME, M14, BM59, M1A and the like. This is dramatically smaller and lighter than an AR-10 bolt carrier. You get the full ambidextrous controls, billet upper/lower, adjustable gas block, tighter tolerances, a coated BCG and generally everything is slightly higher spec. string(52) "https://pof-usa.com/?post_type=firearm&p=130663" I'm now suppressed and the way to go with any AR is a flow-through design. ["guid"]=> I'd like to have one. | ["post_name"]=> string(0) "" string(7) "firearm" Well, they also offer their Prescott model in 6mm Creedmoor and 6.5mm Creedmoor. ["post_excerpt"]=> ["post_parent"]=> Damn. The carbine weighs just 5.9 pounds, while the pistol weighs a mere 5.7 pounds. ["to_ping"]=> string(13) "p415-edge-sbr" Tuning the gas system can reduce felt recoil and make for a smoother operating rifle. int(129246) I thought the accuracy was excellent after a little load work given what the rifle is, it's work to shoot a 6lb semi-auto .308 for groups. ["post_content"]=> The Federal load exhibited a noticeable 4+1 grouping where it plunked four shots into an inch or less and then tossed one markedly opening the group. I am a fan of lightweight ARs and enjoying building them. $1,974.00 Add to Cart Add to Wish List Add to Compare Skip to the end of the images gallery add to cart see details. It may not display this or other websites correctly. string(8) "prescott" ["filter"]=> I did try three other brands of metal magazines but experienced occasional misfeeds so stopped using them. ["pinged"]=> ["post_password"]=> Anyone tried one of these? int(0) string(19) "2022-12-28 14:30:32" Search. POF-USAs Revolution really caught my attention, but I refrained from buying one. string(4) "3120" string(0) "" Swapping to a heavier MGI buffer solved the issue. string(0) "" Three quick hits and I switched to the LaRue at 500 yards. Oh, no. } This Ruger SFAR 16" looks to be similar to the Sig 716i in cost and the 716i has also been compared favorably to the POF by some reviewers. POF-USA 4.5lb Drop-In Match Grade Trigger - Now included with . It does have a LOT of proprietary parts, including upper, lower, bolt carrier group, buffer tube, etc. I have seen the bad reviews and that is honestly the biggest reason to consider the sig. You simply cannot go wrong with any of these rifles." SIG Sauer 716i TREAD Specs Caliber: .308 Win. POF-USA Revolution Accuracy Bigshooterist 81K subscribers Join Subscribe 627 Save 19K views 5 years ago Join the Official Bigshooterist Patreon Family: https://www.patreon.com/Bigshooterist. ["to_ping"]=> gun that POFs marketing claims tout, with an empty weight of 6 lbs., 3 ozs., it is still supremely light for a .308 ARweighing even less than most AR-15 carbines on the market. ["post_content_filtered"]=> David Fortier gets a chance to shoot the HK MP7 PDW at drivetanks.com. Review: POF-USA Minuteman Pistol - An Official Journal Of The NRA ["post_name"]=> It now groups 1.5-3" with 147gr crap and 3/4" with factory FGGM 168's. . After that it was perfect. ["post_modified"]=> AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. ["pinged"]=> Also before the panic I invested in a top down, full reloading setup, with plenty of primers-powder-bullets for at least a year. I thought the accuracy was excellent after a little load work given what the rifle is, it's work to shoot a 6lb semi-auto .308 for groups. string(19) "2022-05-09 15:31:51" string(4) "3120" POF-USA Rogue 16.5 AR is the Lightest 7.62mm - DefenseReview.com tombstone-9mmobject(WP_Post)#7938 (24) { string(6) "closed" I really want a rogue, I think its an awesome concept and would love to get one, espeacially at the price compared to other comparable offerings with uber exotic materials for a lot more $$$. ["post_type"]=> After finishing up at the bench I loaded up some 25- and 20-round Magpul magazines and ran some drills at 25, 50, 75 and 100 yards. A new addition to the Honey Badger line is a 115 grain 10 mm round. string(19) "2022-12-28 22:30:32" It is amazing what they are doing, and the prices they are doing it at. My Rogue really likes Tula 150gr steel cased ammo. new. Adjustments are easily made using the included tool, a simple flat head screwdriver or the rim of a cartridge. ["post_content"]=> ["comment_status"]=> TESTobject(WP_Post)#7921 (24) { string(6) "closed" POF Patriot Ordinance - Rogue | Oklahoma Shooters Having shot comparable systems, there are very few reasons I can see anyone choosing 308 over 6.5 Grendel. ["to_ping"]=> This features their pictogram safety markings plus ambidextrous safety. ["post_modified"]=> Even FNs 8-pound SCAR 17S, which is generally considered very light for a 7.62x51mm NATO semi-auto is rotund in comparison. That's pretty light. I think they are absolute genius. Sep 6, 2022. Threaded into the rear of the lower receiver is an aluminum anti-tilt receiver extension. This is due to the fact it accepts a 7.62x51mm rather than a 5.56x45mm magazine. ["comment_count"]=> Designed in house to precisely complement the platform, our nitride heat treated muzzle brake controls muzzle impulse for ultimate accuracy and an unbelievably soft recoil. I dont want to troubleshoot something I just spent $1500 buying. ["post_author"]=> ["post_mime_type"]=> ["post_modified"]=> This is not the case with the Revolution. The carbine ships with one 20-round Magpul magazine, and no sighting options are included with the gun. Anyone have experience with the POF Prescott? : r/guns - Reddit As to be expected the 120-grain PDX1 Defender load exhibited the least recoil while the 185-grain Juggernaut pushed the hardest. I'd personally spend a bit more on the Revolution DI over the Rogue, no experience with the Sig but I've never been a fan and it's about two pounds heavier and physically larger overall. string(0) "" And, that's not ALL, Monty. POF Rogue, P415 Edge & Renegade+ Add OD Green Cerakote ["post_title"]=> Such a combination would make for a light and handy, yet hard-hitting hunting or tactical rifle. TNVC/NGI Giveaway: 15 winners with over $7000 worth of prizes!! I'm running the OSS HD-7.62Ti and couldn't be happier as it functions the same with the can on or off (so it may work really well with the Rogue and it's also POF's preferred suppressor). ["post_status"]=> string(0) "" The Rogue features a forged receiver set, stainless steel barrel, KeyLock DI BCG, ambidextrous selector, multiple QD sling attachment points, and Renegade rail & oversized heatsink barrel nut, all topped off with our Micro B muzzle brake. Patriot Ordnance Factory (POF) Rogue .308 Rifle - 16.5" AR-10 Rifle In stock Only 3 left FFL Required Before Shipping. ["post_content_filtered"]=> ["post_type"]=> string(52) "https://pof-usa.com/?post_type=firearm&p=128150" Thats about 400 to 500 fps faster than a similar weight 6.5mm Grendel. string(17) "Revolution DI SBR" ["menu_order"]=> Put a quick 60 rounds through her, mixed Prvi ball and Federal 150 gr. It would make a great woods gun. string(0) "" ["post_date"]=> POF-USA recommends only using Magpul and Lancer magazines with the Rogue. string(19) "2023-01-02 05:00:02" Thought I would throw out my new updates to my POF Rogue. POF USA Rifles for Sale Online - Patriot Ordnance Factory TIA! I dont know why. Loads consisted of Winchesters 120-grain PDX1 Defender, Australian Outback 150-grain Swift Scirocco II BTS, Black Hills Ammunitions 178-grain ELD-X and Federals 185-grain Juggernaut Gold Medal Match. POF Rogue Prescott 6.5 Creedmoor Semi Auto Rifle 20" Barrel 20 Rounds I understand the appeal of being . The ADM UIC-10A chambered in .308 Winchester provides a compact platform for long range precision shooting. string(0) "" ["post_modified_gmt"]=> ["ping_status"]=> p415-edge-sbrobject(WP_Post)#7948 (24) { This is a solid option for most shooters. Location of This Business. POF Rogue .308 Reviews - Texas Hunting Forum I will be using a surpressor on it, and I was thinking a primary arms glx acss raptor for the optic. What are your thoughts on the revolution compared to the i have a rogue pistol shoots great, 700 plus rounds, mostly suppressed, no issues. ["post_date_gmt"]=> My review rifle featured their Patriot Brown rather than traditional black finish. int(0) It's lighter than my 14.5" 5.56 AR. string(6) "closed" I originally was looking in to a revolution di, then I saw the rogue and thought that it fit the bill for what I am looking for at a better price point even if I had to upgrade the gas system. Accuracy and Lightweight in one Package the POF Rogue Prescott POF took the Rogue platform to the next level in Prescott in 6.5 Creedmoor. . string(0) "" Like the Revolution models before it, the Rogue also utilizes the companys E2 dual-extraction system, whereby four shallow grooves cut into the neck of the chamber vent ignition gases rearward to push against the cases shoulder, helping to break the seal and facilitating reliable extraction. ["pinged"]=> Trying to find some match ammo now to accuracy test it. Quick Reply to: ["post_name"]=> AZ: Land of wind, dirt and angry old people. Thanks for the info! Wrong! Accuracy through lightweight rifles can often sufferboth due to their thinner barrels heating up much more quickly and due to the added difficulty of shooting them wellyet the Rogue performed. string(52) "https://pof-usa.com/?post_type=firearm&p=122231" int(128146) So, the brake can be easily replaced if you so desire. ["menu_order"]=> ["post_date"]=> ["post_type"]=> POF P-308 14'5" barrel. Our Keylock Bolt Carrier Group is comprised of a Nitride heat treated carrier and stainless-steel gas key. POF ROGUE Vs SIG 716 tread | Sniper's Hide Forum ["comment_count"]=> The new Cerakote finishes bump POF variants up to eight different color options. It is light and handy, easy to customize, very accurate and performs well in the field. They also offer a wide variety of build kits, including various Cerakote options that are available as limited runs. These were shot offhand and kneeling while rapidly engaging multiple targets with multiple rounds. string(3) "raw" I got myself a 16" POF Rogue just before the panic, and topped it with a MRAD Vortex Razor LHT 3-15x42, then added a Dictator. If you are a fan of this cartridge though, you may want to consider POFs Rogue. BBB File Opened: 9/18/2009. ["post_content_filtered"]=> ["post_author"]=> POF Revolution Accuracy Test Only (308 Ammunition Comparison) How to get the most out of my Rogue? : r/longrange - Reddit awaiting my cgs hyperion then determining if a gas block is needed for my rogueif so I'm trying a SLR first since it's much lighter than the pof brand. Anybody have experience with the POF Rogue? It's lighter than my 14.5" 5.56 AR. string(15) "phoenix-9mm-sbr" Both have been accurate as well as reliableat least with the Hornady ELDxs and Nosler Accubonds I normally use. 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